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What amazes me is that many of the people who either join these MLM scams or actually help start them as Founding Distributors, also seem to always claim to be Mormon. They talk about ‘blessing many lives’ and ‘Moral Obligation to share.”
One example is Gary & Cyndy Williams from Sholo, AZ, they are Mormon liars who are promoting the 2plus7 scam with all their might. Why would people who are generally decent, join a scam like 2plus7 and then invite all their friends and family to go broke with them? Could it be because they recently lost a 6-figure income from Reliv when they got terminated for money laundering and crossline sponsoring into 2plus7 and now desperate to make money lost since being kicked out of Reliv?
How sad and pathetic to see Gary & Cyndy Williams hop from scam to scam, eternally failing and making enemies as they go along. These were seemingly honest Mormons who spent many years building a good business with Reliv only to screw themselvs out of business to promote obvious scams. Then again, desperate people do desperate things, the Williams will surely begin to regret it these antics once they burn all their bridges and have no one left to sucker and prey upon.
However, here in Melbourne, I have seen some of the training, and they have never said this. However, it may be tips from people in it to others starting up.
So it’s not a company thing, it’s just some annoying people in it who do it. I lol at these people
if RELIV is causing you NO sleep try taking Classic or Now, w/Innergize it will greatly improve your sleep patters. No company w/people in it will ever b perfect. Success with RELIV is how HARD you work at it. Simple as That. RELIV the Co. promotes the products through people using the products, I’ve been taking the products for 5 years ‘n wd not go home w/o It. Visited your site BUT is a PORTAL selling me businesses you’re affiliated with NO real content.
If RELIV is making you loose sleep try Classic or Now and Innergize definetely will greatly improve your sleep patterns. I’ve been taking the products for five years and wd not leave home w/o it. Companies are not perfect! Success with RELIV is how HARD you work at it
Friday, Sept 4th 2009, Chesterfield, Mo. – Reliv International Inc., announces $2.1 million buyout after Founding Distributor ‘calls it quits’
Mike Williams of Eureka, Mo. has officially thrown in the towel and sold his distributorship along with his entire downline, directly to the company, according to filings with the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission on Aug 30th.
Mr. Williams declined to comment regarding his decision to leave, citing only irreconcilable differences with the company.
The distributorship was one of the more notable, highly-paid positions in Reliv’s history. At closing, the companys Chairman, President and Chief Executive Mr. Robert Montgomery, agreed to pay Mike and his wife Julie Williams a lump sum total of $500,000 in liquid cash assets, in addition to paying off over $215,000 of credit card debt that Williams incurred through per diem and living expenses during recent promotional road-tours the company obligated he perform prior to his Aug 30th selloff.
Reliv will then write cheques for the remaining $1.3 million in cash installments of nearly $20,000 per month payments over several years, including a 5% fixed interest rate on adjusted balances, paid to the order of Mike and Julie Williams.
Reliv International of Chesterfield, Mo. is a multi-level marketing (MLM) manufacturer of non-FDA approved dietary supplements. Reliv International & its Board of Directors no longer meet compliance requirements for membership with NASDAQ (effective 05/09).
Reliv International, Is Reliv a Scam? YES, a BIG ONE. Reliv has a high attrition rate and failing in the MLM industry while most others are exponentially growing in this bad economy. Sadly, Reliv relies heavily on new distributors to use old school Hotel-meeting-hype and ‘hard-selling’ tricks to warm-market lists (family & friends) or turn your back on them if they say “No.” In Reliv, its do or die, join the cult or get outta town. You succeed or get black-listed by the Reliv Inner-Circle Elite.
It’s amazing how people see the need to rubbish other companies just to promote their own agenda. For those people who have failed at traditional MLM and think online marketing is the holy gail, know this; your income will follow your personal growth. People leave companies all the time, that reflects the person. So to the guy that made the video, instead of trying to rubbish Reliv, why don’t you just be honest and promote the legitimate benefits of your system, you may get more repect that way.
I didn’t leave the energy co because “distributorship was limited” — that’s a typo. What I meant to say is, their model was not strictly MLM since distributorships were limited and tightly controlled by the co.
(I left because of a combination of factors — health, overbearing micromanagement, ethical questions about sales tactics, and desire to be doing something more meaningful.)
Unfortunately, everyone and their mom is marketing on the Internet nowadays. How are you going to stand out? I think face to face contact is still where most of the action is, especially if you’re talking about building lasting relationships.
Hey, former Reliv distro and thinking of getting back in. You have a point — the net is big and it’s exciting but don’t be fooled, it cannot and will not ever replace face-to-face relationships. It can be a very useful adjunct however. I just left an alternative energy supplier co. since distributorship was limited. Still, my point is that normal sales agents could make $80k plus if they hustled, and 6 figures plus if you build a team. This was all done by direct marketing … door to door.
I am an Director with Reliv. Danny says near the beginning of this video that HE put the card in the book for the example, and that HE used to put cards in books at book stores. I have heard of a lot of ways to get the word out about Reliv, but in over 2 years I’ve never heard anyone say they put their card in new books at book stores. BTW – We are on the internet. Looks like Danny’s objective is to sell himself. Reliv saved my life and the business is great!
I agree, I’m a Director with Reliv and it would be better if people could sign up as a distributor online at their website instead of having to visit with someone locally or send them paperwork to fill out! However, in my first year of being with the company, I have seen some great improvements on how the company does business… for instance, they have now gone to an “Auto draft” system for distributors and customers to purchase their products each month! Carl Weinfurtner II, Omaha NE
I totally agree with you, I’m a Master Affilate of reliv. Ive been Involved with reliv for 2 years, and I am very disapointed of how some share reliv. The person who put the card in is so stupid, Reliv has great products the best Ive seen. Good Things sell themselfs, I think you and I wouldnt be friends. But I agree alot of what you have said, Excellent job.
love your accent — you’re an excellent presenter — you should be on some kind of a speaking circuit. you’re good…!
@Prichyta617 yes i so agree with you
good it should be on ur mind i take reliv and my father lost 25 pounds and shut up o just shut up
Danny—Please take a bath.
Everyone else, please check out relivintl account here in youtube. Then decide if the elevator goes all the way to the top floor.
This guy can’t sleep because there was a business card inside a book? And he wants me to believe what he has to say?
I might lose sleep knowing he walks among us.
What amazes me is that many of the people who either join these MLM scams or actually help start them as Founding Distributors, also seem to always claim to be Mormon. They talk about ‘blessing many lives’ and ‘Moral Obligation to share.”
One example is Gary & Cyndy Williams from Sholo, AZ, they are Mormon liars who are promoting the 2plus7 scam with all their might. Why would people who are generally decent, join a scam like 2plus7 and then invite all their friends and family to go broke with them? Could it be because they recently lost a 6-figure income from Reliv when they got terminated for money laundering and crossline sponsoring into 2plus7 and now desperate to make money lost since being kicked out of Reliv?
How sad and pathetic to see Gary & Cyndy Williams hop from scam to scam, eternally failing and making enemies as they go along. These were seemingly honest Mormons who spent many years building a good business with Reliv only to screw themselvs out of business to promote obvious scams. Then again, desperate people do desperate things, the Williams will surely begin to regret it these antics once they burn all their bridges and have no one left to sucker and prey upon.
all4onenetwork, I understand why you are angry.
However, here in Melbourne, I have seen some of the training, and they have never said this. However, it may be tips from people in it to others starting up.
So it’s not a company thing, it’s just some annoying people in it who do it. I lol at these people
if RELIV is causing you NO sleep try taking Classic or Now, w/Innergize it will greatly improve your sleep patters. No company w/people in it will ever b perfect. Success with RELIV is how HARD you work at it. Simple as That. RELIV the Co. promotes the products through people using the products, I’ve been taking the products for 5 years ‘n wd not go home w/o It. Visited your site BUT is a PORTAL selling me businesses you’re affiliated with NO real content.
If RELIV is making you loose sleep try Classic or Now and Innergize definetely will greatly improve your sleep patterns. I’ve been taking the products for five years and wd not leave home w/o it. Companies are not perfect! Success with RELIV is how HARD you work at it
well thank you danny, I wish that you fail at your garbage business ventures of fraud and deception. go get a real job.
Friday, Sept 4th 2009, Chesterfield, Mo. – Reliv International Inc., announces $2.1 million buyout after Founding Distributor ‘calls it quits’
Mike Williams of Eureka, Mo. has officially thrown in the towel and sold his distributorship along with his entire downline, directly to the company, according to filings with the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission on Aug 30th.
Mr. Williams declined to comment regarding his decision to leave, citing only irreconcilable differences with the company.
The distributorship was one of the more notable, highly-paid positions in Reliv’s history. At closing, the companys Chairman, President and Chief Executive Mr. Robert Montgomery, agreed to pay Mike and his wife Julie Williams a lump sum total of $500,000 in liquid cash assets, in addition to paying off over $215,000 of credit card debt that Williams incurred through per diem and living expenses during recent promotional road-tours the company obligated he perform prior to his Aug 30th selloff.
Reliv will then write cheques for the remaining $1.3 million in cash installments of nearly $20,000 per month payments over several years, including a 5% fixed interest rate on adjusted balances, paid to the order of Mike and Julie Williams.
Reliv International of Chesterfield, Mo. is a multi-level marketing (MLM) manufacturer of non-FDA approved dietary supplements. Reliv International & its Board of Directors no longer meet compliance requirements for membership with NASDAQ (effective 05/09).
20 years I’ve taken Reliv Classic or Now. 20 years I’ve had excellent health. Reliv has the finest nutritional products available on the market.
Reliv International, Is Reliv a Scam? YES, a BIG ONE. Reliv has a high attrition rate and failing in the MLM industry while most others are exponentially growing in this bad economy. Sadly, Reliv relies heavily on new distributors to use old school Hotel-meeting-hype and ‘hard-selling’ tricks to warm-market lists (family & friends) or turn your back on them if they say “No.” In Reliv, its do or die, join the cult or get outta town. You succeed or get black-listed by the Reliv Inner-Circle Elite.
It’s amazing how people see the need to rubbish other companies just to promote their own agenda. For those people who have failed at traditional MLM and think online marketing is the holy gail, know this; your income will follow your personal growth. People leave companies all the time, that reflects the person. So to the guy that made the video, instead of trying to rubbish Reliv, why don’t you just be honest and promote the legitimate benefits of your system, you may get more repect that way.
I didn’t leave the energy co because “distributorship was limited” — that’s a typo. What I meant to say is, their model was not strictly MLM since distributorships were limited and tightly controlled by the co.
(I left because of a combination of factors — health, overbearing micromanagement, ethical questions about sales tactics, and desire to be doing something more meaningful.)
Unfortunately, everyone and their mom is marketing on the Internet nowadays. How are you going to stand out? I think face to face contact is still where most of the action is, especially if you’re talking about building lasting relationships.
Hey, former Reliv distro and thinking of getting back in. You have a point — the net is big and it’s exciting but don’t be fooled, it cannot and will not ever replace face-to-face relationships. It can be a very useful adjunct however. I just left an alternative energy supplier co. since distributorship was limited. Still, my point is that normal sales agents could make $80k plus if they hustled, and 6 figures plus if you build a team. This was all done by direct marketing … door to door.
get over it
I am an Director with Reliv. Danny says near the beginning of this video that HE put the card in the book for the example, and that HE used to put cards in books at book stores. I have heard of a lot of ways to get the word out about Reliv, but in over 2 years I’ve never heard anyone say they put their card in new books at book stores. BTW – We are on the internet. Looks like Danny’s objective is to sell himself. Reliv saved my life and the business is great!
I agree, I’m a Director with Reliv and it would be better if people could sign up as a distributor online at their website instead of having to visit with someone locally or send them paperwork to fill out! However, in my first year of being with the company, I have seen some great improvements on how the company does business… for instance, they have now gone to an “Auto draft” system for distributors and customers to purchase their products each month! Carl Weinfurtner II, Omaha NE
I totally agree with you, I’m a Master Affilate of reliv. Ive been Involved with reliv for 2 years, and I am very disapointed of how some share reliv. The person who put the card in is so stupid, Reliv has great products the best Ive seen. Good Things sell themselfs, I think you and I wouldnt be friends. But I agree alot of what you have said, Excellent job.